BSNL EMPLOYEES UNION
Recognised Union in BSNL
(Regiistered Under IIndiian Trade Uniion Act 1926.. Regn..No..4896)
CHQ:Dada Ghosh Bhawan,, Opp.. Shadiipur Bus Depot..,, New Dellhii – 110008
Emaiill: chqbsnlleu@siify..com,, websiite: bsnlleuchq..com
P.. Abhiimanyu Phone:: ((O)) 011--25705385
Generall Secrettary Fax:: 011-- 25894862
BSNLEU/124 ((UF)) 28..06..2011
To
Shrii A..K.. Garg,,
Diirector ((HR)),, BSNL,,
Bharat Sanchar Bhawan,,
Janpath,, New Dellhii – 110 001
Sub:: Submiissiion off memorandum on some off the pressiing iissues off the emplloyees – reg..
Siir,,
II am encllosiing herewiith a memorandum on some off the pressiing iissues off the emplloyees.. The
Natiionall Steeriing Commiittee off the Uniited Forum,, whiich helld iit’’s meetiing on 25..06..2011,, has
expressed concern over the iinordiinate dellay iin the settllement off some off the pressiing iissues off the
emplloyees.. The meetiing has giiven diirectiion to submiit a memorandum off such iissues to the
management.. The meetiing has allso deciided to resort to trade uniion actiions,, iiff the iissues are not
settlled wiithiin a reasonablle tiime..
Thankiing you,,
Yours siincerelly,,
((P..Abhiimanyu))
Generall Secretary
Encll:: AA
Memorandum submiitted to the Diirector (HR),, BSNL,, on some of
the pressiing iissues of the emplloyees
(1) Voluntary Retirement Scheme
IItt iis llearrntt tthatt BSNL has sentt a VRS prroposall fforr tthe apprrovall off tthe DoT.. BSNLEU and tthe
Uniitted Forrum sttrronglly oppose tthe iinttrroducttiion off any VRS iin BSNL.. The arrgumentt tthatt BSNL
has gone iintto lloss because off tthe huge wage biillll off tthe emplloyees iis unttenablle.. We wiish tto
poiintt outt tthatt iitt was wiitth tthe same numberr off emplloyees,, BSNL earrned Rs..10,,000 crrorre prroffiitt
iin 2004--05.. We allso wiish tto poiintt outt tthatt iitt was tthe wrrong polliiciies off tthe govtt.. tthatt has putt
BSNL iintto ttoday’’s miiserrablle condiittiion.. When morre tthan 10,,000 emplloyees arre rrettiirriing everry
yearr,, absolluttelly ttherre iis no necessiitty tto brriing iin a VRS.. The ffactt tthatt VRS coulld nott sallvage
MTNL ffrrom iitt’’s crriisiis shoulld serrve as an eye--openerr fforr tthose who wantt VRS iin BSNL..
Hence,, we urrge upon tthe BSNL managementt and DoT tto giive up tthe pllan tto iinttrroduce VRS
iin BSNL..
(2) Productivity Linked Incentive
The emplloyees who arre worrkiing iin BSNL have been gettttiing PLII allmostt fforr tthe pastt 30 yearrs..
Forr tthe ffiirrstt ttiime,, tthey werre deniied PLII iin 2010.. PLII paymentt was deniied on tthe pllea tthatt
BSNL diid nott earrn any prroffiitt iin 2009--10.. The emplloyees arre verry much diisappoiintted due tto
tthe non--paymentt off PLII.. IIn no way tthe emplloyees arre rresponsiiblle fforr tthe ffiinanciiall crriisiis
ffaced by BSNL.. IItt iis tthe wrrong polliiciies off tthe govtt.. and tthe iineffffiiciiency off tthe managementt
tthatt have lled BSNL iintto lloss.. Hence,, a new PLII fforrmulla shoulld be evollved so tthatt tthe
emplloyees gett PLII,, iirrrrespecttiive off tthe ffactt tthatt tthe company earrns prroffiitt orr nott..
(3) Provision of SC/ST reservation in Non-Executive Employees Promotion
Policy and conducting a drive to fill up the SC/ST back log vacancies
((ii)) BSNL has iinttrroduced tthe Non--Executtiive Emplloyees Prromottiion Polliicy,, viide Lrr..no..27--
7//2008--TE IIII datted 23..03..2010.. As perr parra 6..2 off tthe polliicy,, tthe prroviisiions rrellattiing tto
applliicattiion off rroastterrs arre nott applliicablle.. Howeverr,, as a concessiion tto tthe SC//ST
emplloyees,, onlly tthe grradiing crriitterriia have been rrellaxed,, iin comparriison tto tthe OC
emplloyees.. Thiis has nott giiven rrelliieff tto tthe SC//ST emplloyees.. Hence,, we demand tthatt
tthe prroviisiions rrellattiing tto tthe applliicattiion off rroastterrs shoulld be made applliicablle iin tthe
Non--Executtiive Prromottiion Polliicy..
((iiii)) Postts meantt fforr tthe SC//ST emplloyees arre llyiing unffiilllled iin varriious Non--Executtiive cadrres..
We rrequestt tthatt tthe managementt shoulld conductt a speciiall drriive tto ffiillll up tthose back--llog
vacanciies..
(4) Implementation of DPE OM dated 02.04.2009 regarding increasing fitment
benefit from 68.8% to 78.2% w.e.f. 01.01.2007
The DPE has iissued orrderr,, viide iitt’’s OM datted 02..04..2009 fforr merrgerr off 78..2% IIDA,, w..e..ff..
01..01..2007.. IItt has been iimpllementted iin ottherr PSUs.. Butt iin BSNL wage rreviisiion has been
done by merrgiing 68..8% IIDA onlly.. Thiis iis viiollattiion off tthe DPE orrderr.. The emplloyees arre putt
tto much lloss due tto non--iimpllementtattiion off tthe saiid DPE orrderr.. On many occasiions ourr uniion
has rraiised tthiis iissue,, howeverr iitt rremaiins unsettttlled.. Hence,, merrgerr off 78..2% IIDA,, w..e..ff..
01..01..2007 may be done..
(5) Introduction of NE 12 pay scale
As perr tthe Non--Executtiive Prromottiion Polliicy agrreementt siigned on 30..10..2008,, NE--12 pay
scalle iis tto be iinttrroduced fforr tthe ttiime bound upgrradattiion off tthe offffiiciialls iin tthe NE--11 pay
scalle.. Afftterr prrollonged dellay,, tthe BSNL CO,, viide iitt’’s lletttterr no..BSNL//39--3//SR//2006//Voll--IIIIII
datted 08..09..2010 has prroposed tthe pay scalle off NE--12 scalle Rs..16380--30640 fforr NE--12
scalle.. BSNLEU,, viide iitt’’s lletttterr no..BSNLEU//506 ((NEPP)) datted 10..10..2010,, demanded tthe
scalle off Rs..16390--40490 as NE--12 scalle.. IIn tthe diiscussiion helld bettween tthe uniion and tthe
managementt,, on 22..06..2011,, an underrsttandiing has been rreached tthatt tthe NE--12 scalle shallll
be Rs..16390--33830.. The uniion has allso demanded tthatt tthiis pay scalle shoulld be made
effffecttiive ffrrom 01..01..2007,, ii..e.. tthe datte ffrrom whiich rreviised pay scalles arre iimpllementted iin
BSNL.. IItt iis rrequestted tthatt BSNL shoulld apprrove tthiis scalle wiitthoutt ffurrttherr dellay..
(6) The BSNL CO implemented the NEPP w.e.f. 23.03.2010. However, in the
order issued by BSNL, many conditionalities which were not accepted by
the union have been inserted. These conditionalities are creating hardships
to the employees. Hence, we have sought the following modifications which
have already been discussed with the management on a number of
occasions. But no improvement has come.
((a)) Postt based promottiion on 1--10--2000:: Prromottiion polliicy agrreementt,, viide parra 8 says ““afftterr
1--10--2000 and befforre nottiiffiicattiion off tthiis polliicy”” and nott ““on orr afftterr 1--10--2000 and befforre
nottiiffiicattiion off tthiis polliicy”” and tthe same was menttiioned iin parra 6..4 off tthe prromottiion polliicy
orrderr datted 23--3--2010 whiich says ““afftterr 1--10--2000 and befforre nottiiffiicattiion off tthiis polliicy””,, and
nott ““on orr afftterr 1--10--2000 and befforre nottiiffiicattiion off tthiis polliicy””.. Therrefforre any postt based
prromottiion orr ttiime bound prromottiion giiven on 1--10--2000 shoulld nott be countted as prromottiion
underr NEPP and allll such offffiiciialls shoulld be grrantted ffiirrstt NEPP on 1--10--2004..
((b)) Postt based promottiion afftter 1--10--2000 and beffore 1--10--2004:: IIn tthe prromottiion Polliicy
agrreementt no wherre has tthe uniion agrreed fforr counttiing postt based prromottiion as NEPP
prromottiion.. IIn tthe phrrase ““OTBP//BCR//Grrade--IIV//ACP ettc..,,”” iin tthe agrreementt tthe worrd ““ettc””
does nott giive any scope fforr iinclludiing postt based prromottiion fforr counttiing agaiinstt prromottiion
underr NEPP.. IItt means any prromottiion off ttiime bound natturre jjustt lliike OTBP//BCR //ACP ettc.. No
wherre iin tthe agrreementt iitt was menttiioned tto ttrreatt postt based prromottiion as parrtt off NEPP.. IIn
case tthe postt based prromottiion has tto be ttrreatted as NEPP prromottiion,, tthen,, as perr tthe
prroviisiions off tthe Agrreementt as wellll as tthe Orrderr on NEPP,, tthe offffiiciiall shoulld have tthe opttiion
tto fforrgo such prromottiion he gott iin orrderr tto gett hiis ffiirrstt prromottiion as perr NEPP on 1--10--2004..
Butt tthiis iis nott possiiblle siince postt based prromottiion cannott be surrrrenderred.. Hence postt based
prromottiion shoulld nott be ttrreatted on tthe same ffoottiing as tthatt off OTBP//BCR//ACP.. Therrefforre
fforr tthe offffiiciiall who gott postt based prromottiion afftterr 1--10--2000 and befforre 1--10--2004 shoulld be
giiven hiis ffiirrstt prromottiion underr NEPP,, ffourr yearrs afftterr such postt based prromottiion..
As perr tthe cllarriiffiicattiions iissued iin case off tthe prromottiion polliicy fforr executtiives,, viide BSNL No..
400--29//2007--Perrs--II dtt 30--5--2007 iitt was cllarriiffiied tthatt iin case off tthe executtiives who avaiilled postt
based prromottiion on 1--10--2004 orr befforre,, tthe ffiirrstt up grradattiion elliigiibiilliitty shoulld be detterrmiined as
perr tthe prroviisiions conttaiined iin Parra 1..0((ii))((b))((3..1)) off tthe Prromottiion Polliicy orrderr off tthe executtiives
as perr whiich tthe ffiirrstt up grradattiion woulld be due fforr consiiderrattiion on compllettiion off ffourr yearrs off
serrviice iin tthe currrrentt IIDA scalle ii..e..,, iin tthe scalle off tthe postt tto whiich tthe executtiive gott prromottiion
on 1--10--2004 orr befforre.. Therrefforre fforr non--executtiives allso tthiis same rrulle has tto be applliied and
tthose who gott postt based prromottiion on orr befforre 1--10--2004 shoulld be giiven ffiirrstt up grradattiion on
compllettiion off 4 yearrs serrviice iin tthe prromotted postt’’s pay scalle..
((c)) Postt based promottiion ffrom 1--10--2004 tto 23--3--2010 :: The offffiiciiall shoulld be giiven hiis ffiirrstt
up--grradattiion as perr NEPP on 1--10--2004 iin case he diid nott gett any prromottiion underr
OTBP//BCR//GR--IIV//ACP afftterr 1--10--2000 and befforre 1--10--2004.. On compllettiion off tthe
prrescrriibed rresiidency perriiod iin tthe currrrentt pay scalle afftterr such postt based prromottiion,, he has
tto be giiven second up--grradattiion as perr NEPP.. Had tthe orrderrs fforr NEPP werre iissued allong
wiitth tthe orrderrs fforr converrsiion ffrrom CDA scalles tto IIDA scalles w..e..ff 1--10--2000,, tthese offffiiciialls
woulld have gott NEPP prromottiion on 1--10--2004 and ttherreafftterr tthey woulld have gott ttheiirr postt
based prromottiion.. Morreoverr,, grranttiing NEPP on 1--10--2004 fforr tthose who gott postt based
prromottiion on 24--3--2010 and denyiing tthe same tto tthose who gott postt based prromottiion on 23--
3--2010 wiillll be iirrrrattiionall.. IItt iis allso tto be notted tthatt tthe BSNL iissued cllarriiffiicattiion No.. 3 viide iitts
ciirrcullarr No.. 13--2//2010--TE datted 6--1--2011 as perr whiich iin tthe case off tthe offffiiciiall who gott
prromottiion underr OTBP//BCR//Grrade--IIV//ACP ettc bettween 1--10--2000 and 30--9--2004 and gott
postt based prromottiion on orr afftterr 1--10--2004,, tthe OTBP//BCR//Grrade--IIV//ACP ettc prromottiion
avaiilled befforre 30--9--2004 iis tto be ttrreatted as ffiirrstt up grradattiion and tthe postt based prromottiion
on orr afftterr 1--10--2004 iis tto be ttrreatted as second up grradattiion underr NEPP.. On siimiillarr
grrounds tthe offffiiciiall who gott postt based prromottiion on orr afftterr 1--10--2004 has tto be giiven ffiirrstt
up grradattiion on 1--10--2004 underr NEPP iin case he diid nott gett any up grradattiion afftterr 1--10--
2000 and befforre 1--10--2004..
(7) Conversion of LDC TA to TOA and subsequent promotion to Sr. TOA
The LDC TA converrtted tto TOA on 1--7--2004 and prromotted tto Srr..TOA iin 2007 have nott
complletted tthe qualliiffyiing serrviice prrescrriibed iin NEPP fforr ttiime bound up--grradattiion,, iin any pay
scalle.. The converrsiion tto TOA and tthe prromottiion tto Srr..TOA cannott be accountted agaiinstt
OTBP//BCR//GR--IIV//ACP ettc as dettaiilled above,, and hence shoulld nott be countted as ttiime
bound up--grradattiion as perr NEPP.. Hence tthey shoulld be giiven ffiirrstt up--grradattiion underr NEPP
on compllettiion off prrescrriibed qualliiffyiing serrviice off 4 yearrs ((siince allll off tthem arre DoT rrecrruiitted))
afftterr Srr.. TOA prromottiion..
(8) Upgradation of Driver’s pay scale on account of change in RRs not to be
counted as NEPP promotion.
The drriiverrs’’ pay scalle was upgrraded ffrrom 3050--4590 tto 3200--4900 as perr tthe rreviised RRs,,
wiitth effffectt ffrrom 28--1--2002 and allll tthe Drriiverrs iin tthe orrdiinarry grrade werre pllaced iin tthiis
upgrraded scalle.. No agrreementt iis ttherre bettween managementt and uniion tto countt such
pllacementt on accountt off change iin RRs as tthe ffiirrstt up grradattiion underr NEPP.. IItt cannott be
ttrreatted as ttiime bound up grradattiion.. Therrefforre allll such drriiverrs shoulld be giiven ttheiirr ffiirrstt up
grradattiion underr NEPP ffourr yearrs afftterr such pllacementt ii..e on 28--1--2006.. ((Thiis poiintt was nott
diiscussed iin tthe meettiing helld on 26--4--2011.. We arre now submiittttiing fforr consiiderrattiion..))
(9) The extra increment granted in lieu of Grade IV promotion, one year before
retirement, should not be denied in case of the officials who wish to
continue in the OTBP, BCR and Grade IV.
Siince tthiis one iincrrementt iis parrtt and parrcell off tthe OTBP,, BCR and Grrade IIV Scheme,, and
DoT acceptted iitt and grrantted pensiion on iitt,, iitt cannott be deniied,, iiff an offffiiciiall optts tto conttiinue
iin tthe scheme.. The agrreementt diid nott prroviide fforr such wiitthdrrawall and any exiisttiing prriiviillege
cannott be wiitthdrrawn uniillatterralllly.. IItt iis rrequestted tto conttiinue tthe iincrrementt fforr such offffiiciialls
and allso one morre chance tto change opttiion fforr tthe elliigiiblle offffiiciialls afftterr accepttiing fforr
conttiinuattiion off tthiis iincrrementt..
(10) Upgradation of TTA pay scale on 1-10-2000
The pay scalle off TTA cadrre was upgrraded ffrrom NE--8 tto NE--9 w..e..ff 1--10--2000 as perr tthe
earrlliierr deciisiion off tthe DoT.. Thiis pay scalle rreviisiion off tthe TTA cadrre does nott ffallll wiitthiin tthe
cattegorry off ““ttiime bound up grradattiion off pay scalle””.. Hence,, tthiis pay scalle rreviisiion off TTA
cadrre w..e..ff.. 01..10..2000,, shoulld nott be ttrreatted as a parrtt off tthe NEPP.. The prromottiion polliicy
agrreementt as wellll as tthe orrderr iissued on iitt on 23--3--2010 prroviide fforr counttiing
OTBP//BCR//Grrade--IIV//ACP ettc as ffiirrstt up grradattiion underr NEPP iiff iitt iis giiven ““afftterr”” 1--10--
2000 and nott ““on 1--10--2000”” ((see parra 8 off tthe prromottiion polliicy agrreementt and parra 6..4 off
tthe NEPP orrderr datted 23--3--2010)).. Therrefforre tthiis cllarriiffiicattiion fforr counttiing TTA pay scalle up
grradattiion on 1--10--2000 as ffiirrstt NEPP iis viiollattiion off tthe Agrreementt on NEPP and allso
viiollattiion off tthe orrderr iissued on iitt on 23--3--2010.. Hence tthiis up grradattiion as wellll as any up
grradattiion on 1--10--2000 shoulld nott be countted as ffiirrstt up grradattiion underr NEPP..
(11) TSM regularized as RM on 1-10-2000
Siince tthey arre ttrreatted as Goverrnmentt emplloyees and arre grrantted Goverrnmentt pensiion and
GPF,, fforr prromottiion purrposes underr NEPP allso tthey arre tto be ttrreatted as Goverrnmentt
emplloyees onlly.. Morreoverr ttheiirr TSM serrviice was countted fforr iincrrementts whiille ffiixiing ttheiirr
pay on appoiinttmentt as RM and tthey werre grrantted EL durriing TSM serrviice whiich was ttaken
iintto accountt even afftterr appoiinttmentt as RM.. The counttiing off TSM serrviice fforr iincrrementt,, GPF,,
lleave and pensiion cllearrlly esttablliish tthatt tthey have perrfforrmed dutty iin DoT and hence arre tto
be ttrreatted as DoT appoiinttees onlly.. Thiis iis conffiirrmed by DoT iittsellff.. The DoT Orrderr No.. 22--
2//2006--SNG datted 20--10--2006 confferrrriing elliigiibiilliitty fforr tthese offffiiciialls fforr Prresiidenttiiall Orrderrs
cllearrlly menttiioned,, ““IItt iis ffurrttherr cllarriiffiied tthatt iin rrespectt off tthose Casuall Labourrerrs who werre
nott haviing TSM sttattus as on 30--9--2000 and who have been rregullarriized iin BSNL afftterr 1--10--
2000,, ttheiirr sttattus wiillll be off a PSU appoiinttee and ttherrefforre no Prresiidenttiiall Orrderrs need be
iissued iin such cases..”” The iimplliicattiion iis tthatt tthe TSMs rregullarriized as RM on 1--10--2000 arre
nott PSU appoiinttees and hence arre DoT appoiinttees and tthe casuall llabourrerrs rregullarriized as
RM on 1--10--2000 arre PSU appoiinttees.. Therrefforre,, siince tthe TSM rregullarriized as RM on 1--10--
2000 iis DoT appoiinttee,, he has tto be giiven ffiirrstt upgrradattiion underr NEPP on 1--10--2004,, on
compllettiion off 4 yearrs serrviice iin BSNL..
(12) When the official forgoes promotion he got to a higher scale as per the
earlier scheme in order to get promotion under NEPP, as a special case the
NEPP promotion be given to the same higher scale he got earlier.
As perr parra 6..4 off tthe NEPP,, iiff an offffiiciiall who had allrready avaiilled up grradattiion underr
OTBP//BCR//Grrade--IIV//ACP,, afftterr 01..10..2000 and befforre nottiiffiicattiion off NEPP,, wiishes tto optt
fforr ffiirrstt up grradattiion underr NEPP,, tthen he//she has tto fforrego tthe up grradattiion allrready avaiilled
underr OTBP//BCR//Grrade IIV//ACP.. As perr tthiis prroviisiion iiff a Srr..TOA who has allrready avaiilled
OTBP afftterr 01..10..2004 wiishes tto optt fforr NEPP,, tthen he//she has tto fforrego tthe 7100--10100
scalle and wiillll be pllaced iin tthe 5700--8100 scalle.. Subsequenttlly,, he//she wiillll be prromotted tto
6550--9325 scalle.. Ullttiimattelly,, iin tthiis way tthe offffiiciiall iis acttualllly ffaciing demottiion ffrrom 7100--
10100 scalle tto 6550--9325 scalle.. Thiis iis a rrarre case arriisiing outt off tthe above narrrratted
siittuattiion.. You wiillll agrree tthatt such a demottiion orr rreverrsiion tto a llowerr scalle shoulld nott happen
wiitthoutt a dully giiven puniishmentt orrderr.. Hence iitt iis rrequestted tthatt iin tthiis case tthe 7100--10100
scalle off tthe Srr..TOA shoulld be prrottectted,, even iiff he//she optts fforr NEPP..
(13) Extra Increment granted in lieu of Grade-4 promotion after reaching the
maximum of the pay scale
Varriious CCA offffiices have soughtt cllarriiffiicattiions ffrrom DoT askiing whettherr tthe exttrra iincrrementt
tto be grrantted iin lliieu off Grrade--4 prromottiion iis admiissiiblle fforr tthe offffiiciialls who rreached
maxiimum off tthe pay scalle//allrready drrawn sttagnattiion iincrrementt afftterr rreachiing tthe maxiimum
off tthe pay scalle and allso whettherr afftterr tthiis grrantt off exttrra iincrrementt afftterr rreachiing maxiimum
off tthe pay scalle,, ffurrttherr annuall iincrrementt iis admiissiiblle.. IItt iis underrsttood tthatt tthe DoT rrefferrrred
tthiis matttterr tto BSNL fforr iitts viiew,, siince tthe grrantt off exttrra iincrrementt iis a scheme off BSNL..
IIn tthiis connecttiion iitt iis submiitttted tthatt tthiis exttrra iincrrementt beneffiitt iis allllowed tto tthose offffiiciialls
who do nott gett Grrade--IIV prromottiion,, keepiing iin viiew ttheiirr llong yearrs off good serrviice,, afftterr
jjudgmentt off tthe ffiittness off tthe offffiiciiall by a scrreeniing commiittttee and allso tthe cllaiim iis nott
allllowed on any ottherr grround exceptt keepiing iin viiew off tthe llong yearrs off good serrviice off tthe
offffiiciialls..
Siince iitt iis grrantted as a speciiall case keepiing iin viiew tthe llong yearrs off good serrviice rrenderred
by tthe offffiiciiall and afftterr jjudgmentt off ffiittness by scrreeniing commiittttee,, and siince iitt iis nott any
annuall iincrrementt tto be sttopped afftterr rreachiing tthe maxiimum off tthe pay scalle and ttherreafftterr
tto be grrantted biienniialllly,, iitt has tto be grrantted even afftterr rreachiing maxiimum off tthe pay scalle//
afftterr gettttiing tthe sttagnattiion iincrrementt and siince iitt has tto be grrantted wiitthoutt any lliink tto
sttagnattiion,, tthe sttagnattiion iincrrementt has tto be giiven as perr prrocedurre tto such offffiiciialls even iiff
tthey gett tthiis exttrra iincrrementt afftterr rreachiing tthe maxiimum off tthe pay scalle.. Any ottherr viiew wiillll
be conttrradiicttiing tthe muttualllly agrreed prriinciiplle off grranttiing tthiis iincrrementt iin viiew off tthe llong
yearrs off good serrviice rrenderred by tthe offffiiciialls concerrned..
Therrefforre iitt iis necessarry tto upholld tthiis muttualllly agrreed and iimpllementted prriinciiplle and save
tthiis exttrra iincrrementt grrantted tto allll tthe concerrned offffiiciialls.. The BSNL managementt iis
rrequestted tto upholld tthiis iincrrementt grrantted afftterr rreachiing maxiimum off tthe pay scalle and tto
send a posiittiive viiew tto DoT fforr iitts conttiinuattiion..
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